Process Killed all the Time?

[schrecki3000]

Hello together,
i successfully installed YTuner, thanks to all people here making that possible!

My Environment:

• Debian LXC on Proxmox
• piHole (also LXC on Proxmox) with DNS entries for vtuner.com (in my case it is wiston.vtuner.com, ping replies with container IP, so this part is working, i can also see actions from the Radio when trying to browse stations)
• An old "1&1 Audiocenter 2"

OK, this old Radio is still not working, but that is a topic to discuss later ;-)

I used @TheBossME 's bash Script for installing. Worked perfect so far, as sudo was not installed i removed the sudo's in front of some commands, cause in the LXC i'm root, so it wasn't necessary.

But i saw, that the service did not run all the time.
So i "systemctl stop service.ytuner" stopped the service and ran it with ./ytuner to see what is happening.
And that is the result:

root@ytuner:/opt/ytuner# ./ytuner
YTuner v1.2.6 Copyright (c) 2024 Greg P. (https://github.com/coffeegreg)
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Inf : Starting services...
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Inf : Successfully loaded 10 my stations.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Database library : 3.40.1.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Inf : Checking local database.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Inf : Preparing local database This may take a while...
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Creating tables.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Filling out countries table.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET countries.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Filling out languages table.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET languages.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Filling out codecs table.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET codecs.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Filling out tags table.
6-5-25 11:24:51 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET tags.
6-5-25 11:24:52 : Dbg : Creating indexes.
6-5-25 11:24:52 : Dbg : Filling out stations table.
6-5-25 11:24:52 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET stations.
Killed
root@ytuner:/opt/ytuner#

It run's about 30 secons, then it kills.
Does not matter, if i perform any actions on the Radio or not.

For a Test, i disabled Radiobrowser:
[Radiobrowser]
;Enables support for radio-browser.info . 1-Yes 0-No ; Default = 1
Enable=0

Then the Service Keeps running.

BTW: I reanimated an Noxon iRadio 360 (the 300 with Stereo Speaker) with xonox, works perfectly ;)

[TheBossME]

@schrecki3000 thanks for your response and using my quick and dirty created script.

Nice that you're using Proxmox and pihole (mee too)

We noticed since a while that api communication sometimes do not work properly. Greg is working on ytuner release 2.x

For the moment try different api string in ytuner.ini

;RBAPIURL=https://all.api.radio-browser.info
;RBAPIURL=https://at1.api.radio-browser.info
;RBAPIURL=https://de1.api.radio-browser.info
;RBAPIURL=https://de2.api.radio-browser.info
;RBAPIURL=https://nl1.api.radio-browser.info
RPAPIURL=https://fi1.api.radio-browser.info

If you are using catPermMemDB which I recommend, you should wait a moment while downloading the database in background

Take a look into /opt/ytuner/db/rb.db should exist after download finished.

I also recommend for you using dnsmasq entries in pihole for redirection of the vtuner.com requests for your radios.

You will see in in pihole which vtuner.com radio domains are requested.

The ytuner service should restart automatically while rebooting. Change your ytuner.service file too the following
Hope this fixed your stopping issue.

[Unit]
Description=ytuner radio service
Wants=network-online.target
StopWhenUnneeded=true

[Service]
User=root
Group=root
ExecStart=/opt/ytuner/ytuner
WorkingDirectory=/opt/ytuner
StandardOutput=file:/var/log/ytuner.log
Restart=always
ExecStop=/bin/date

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

Are you using an LXC container for ytuner ?. I have separated pihole and ytuner in their own LXC containers.

I requested Greg if he has time for programming additional api interface for using the tunein api as an option.

I do recommend using Debian 12 containers for ytuner and pihole.

• pihole goto settings -> all settings -> Miscellaneous
  add following (you can use wildcard *.vtuner.com)

address=/winston.vtuner.com/192.168.xx.xx (ytuner ip)

• change dns entry in ytuner.ini to your pihole ip address
  The settings gave radio devices better performance while browsing stations then, while not using external dns then.

Regards
Beatrice

[schrecki3000]

Hi Beatrice, thanks for quick reply, I'm glad!

RBAPIURL=http://at1.api.radio-browser.info/ seems to work for now, thanks for that hint!

Of yourse there are different containers, pihole and pialert are in one container (serving 6 VLANS (UDM Pro working here)) and the xonox and the ytuner are also in separate containers. Together with 10 other Containers and 2 VM's ;-)
piHole (v6) and ytuner are on Debian 12.

I checked the setting in ytuner.ini you mentioned:
RBCacheType=catPermMemDB
Should be correct i think

But in /opt/ytuner/db there is no file :(

I changed the ytuner.service file to your recommendation, i will monitor it if it's running continously (uptima kuma is also running here ;-) ), but it looks good. I think the change of the RBAPIURL was the solution here.

So far so good, i think i'll wait for v2 from Greg, i don't want to steal your worthy time. I'll try to get the old device running again when the V2 is released.

It's this one (don't laugh): https://www.heise.de/news/Internetradio-von-1-1-1052221.html

It's not a Must that it is running, but it would be a nice to have if it is doable with low effort. I'm not a Fan of electronic waste caused by cloud providers that shut down their service, so i tried to keep it alive and google showed me this project. Was the same with my Noxon iRadio 360 and the xonox project. Running fine again in Homeoffice now.
But to be honest, it's not worth hours of the great community here to get this old thing working, there are other models that were expensive as they were new and it is more economic to spend time on this ones ;)
For me it would be enough to have some Favorites working on that thing (as xonox does), but let's see what V2 brings to us.

Thanks for you help!!!

OT: Respect, 37M Domains in piHole 🦾

[schrecki3000]

Nice to hear that ;)

I did not change the dnsmasq until now, but i entered my piHole in the ytuner.ini DNS section. I can see the requests showing up in piHole, so it works.
As it is the only device at this time, i only set up local dns records.

Where can i change the auto update? I'm sorry, i'm too dumb to see the configuration item...

I'm in the Bavarian Forest, nearly the same as Austria, but German ;-)

But the AT1 API Server is the one that does not kill my ytuner.
At the moment it looks like this:

YTuner v1.2.6 Copyright (c) 2024 Greg P. (https://github.com/coffeegreg)
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Inf : Starting services...
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Inf : Successfully loaded 10 my stations.
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Dbg : Database library : 3.40.1.
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Inf : Checking local database.
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Inf : Preparing local database This may take a while...
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Dbg : Creating tables.
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Dbg : Filling out countries table.
6-5-25 16:26:51 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET countries.
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Err : Radio-browser.info: error getting countries.
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Err : Error filling out countries table.
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Wrn : Database preparing error.
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Wrn : Changing cache to "catFile".
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Inf : Web Service: listening on: 10.1.23.7:80.
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Inf : Getting Radio-browser.info UUIDs...
6-5-25 16:26:54 : Dbg : Radio-browser.info: GET stations.
6-5-25 16:26:57 : Err : Radio-browser.info: error getting stations.

piHole seems to be okay for ytuner

and also for the radio

Currently it is playing a station that it found in one successful try, i think that is where the regiocast url comes from...

PS: it is a /20 net, so don't be surprised by the IP-Adresses ;-) Its a large one for IoT that is only "splitted" by IP's for better "readability, 10.1.20 is Shelly and so on, 10.1.24 Amazon devices... (DHCP Reservations in UDM Pro) but in fact its one Network.

[TheBossME]

@schrecki3000 checkout the api section there is

• RBUUIDsCacheTTL=24

I see errors while try downloading from at1 api server

Take a look to https://api.radio-browser.info/net

This will show you up and running api servers.

Try only with api servers which are up and running and connected. Ping all of them and see which is fastest.

normally RBAPIURL=https://all.api.radio-browser.info should work fine. Keep in mind radio-browser.info is not under our control.

We are still near neighbors. I was near Blackwood Forrest.

If you are using discord and connected to some IT Communities there, then we could know us eventually 🤣.

[schrecki3000]

@TheBossME i will try this setting, thank you.
And also the Servers. As I am Not in Homeoffice tomorrow, i'll try it on Thursday.
I'm not using discord. But funfact: Black Forest, i want to get my favorite Radio Station running on that device again: Schwarzwaldradio. It's running everywhere in the House ;-) i'm sure you know it ;-)

Thanks again for your help!

[schrecki3000]

@TheBossME
Hi, good news, no more killing ;-)

It was not a DNS issue or an issue with the radiobrowser servers.

As i heard that it does not need much resources, after installation i checked the memory consumption, which was very low, so i limited the containers RAM to 128MB and the SWAP to about 32MB.
After a lot of trial and error i started ytuner service and switched over to the "Summary" view in Proxmox...
Memory ran full...
I changed to 512MB and 128MB SWAP, service now working fine. And also the rb.db is now there.

[TheBossME]

@schrecki3000 of course, Proxmox need a minimum of 512 MB for a container to run properly.

Good that you have changed it back to 512MB.

Pihole 6 needs lot of ram too while importing Larger amount of blocklist (I do have overblocked) and need actually 2GB of memory while updating the gravity.db

How about your Proxmox Server ?. I ran 64 GB on an AMD Ryzen with 1 core an 16 threads and 2TB NVME.

Thanks for your feedback !
Regards Beatrice

[schrecki3000]

I would not generally confirm that, heimdall works fine with 256MB RAM and also the xonox container with only 128MB runs perfect.

But piHole, yes, this container has 1GB in my configuration, but currently only 20% percent are used (17M Domains on the List).
The problem with piHole is, while gravity update a lot of disk space is needed, so the container has a 11GB disk, 7GB used. But while updating the lists it blows up to over 10GB at this time (once every sunday 4am), then immediately goes back to 6-7GB.

[TheBossME]

@schrecki3000 we can discuss about disk and memory usage with pihole 6. As you have seen, I do have more than 35Mio domains blocked per default. You can see in my snapshot the actual amount of used disc space, which is under 3 GB.

If you have used more space than 8GB disk space, I do recommend a fresh rollout or a cleanup process while using pihole.

Using 512MB as minimum per container was recommended. There is no reason to lower that. And it gives you a better stability. The used amount of memory at host side do not differ while assigning 128, 256, or 512 MB or more. The Hypervisor handles the needed memory. I'm using the complete 64GB memory while using zfs filesystem. Memory should be used, not freed for best performances. Shrinking memory on VM's or container isn't a good idea.

As someone who has dealt with cars a lot in his life, I would like to leave you with an important sentence in German language:

• Hubraum ist durch nichts zu ersetzen, als durch noch mehr Hubraum

And yes, we are here talking about ytuner and how to help people bringing their radio back to life !